AVAILABLE FINAL UPDATE: please see more info in slides.
This is a very nice manifesto for ecology and an ingenious design! I like it , congrats!
thanks a lot fro your support¡
Excellent idea - I like it! Good luck!
thanks a lot for your support¡
I think it's great with the exception of the stability, I think if you connect the two exterior surfaces back to the central handle surface with minimal material it would be more stable. Great Work!
thanks paustin for your comment i will review that and made some updates in next hours.
Full love for this green crate!!! :-)
wow paola thanks a lot for you love, very appreciated your support¡
ur idea is absolutely fabulous!! very innovative but cud u indicate in ur slides as to how this is form a part of living rm?? waiting for updates!! :) 8*
Thanks a lot for your comment, i will made soon, some visualization about that.
very nice promising idea!
thanks a lot! very appreciated your support.
A very sustainable approach. Would this work as well if you take into consideration that the bottles themsleves cannot carry any weight? The crate itself needs to deliver the stability. If so, please bare in mind that we pack 5 layers on one pallet and store the pallets 3 high. Would this material stand this force?
Hi Arno, thanks a lof for comment, right now i posted final update solving the crate, now this carry themselve all weight, and have extra tabs to give greater stability to the crate. About material resistance at this time i dont have specific data about mechanicals properties of material, i will continue asking about this material with german manufacturers. I hope this week i get this info. Thanks again for your comment.
Great Concept and Design!
As Mr.Moelleken asked for, i guess you will find a good solution for the second row. Would it be possible to turn the second row by 90° not to carry the bottles the weight?
I think there are even more solutions for even 100% home compostable materials, as i went on a long research for the starbucks contest. If this comes to implementation feel free to ask me about manufacturing companies with the most innovative licensed material at present time.
Good luck with this amazing work!
wow Jesko thanks a lot for your help, i will contact you soon¡
Greetings from Colombia
I love international collaboration! Best from Berlin, Gerado! Yours Jesko
wow, the concept is great! you've already been asked about stability so.. waiting for updates. 9* for now :)
hi Anca, right now are available final update now the crate are more stable, and dont allow the charge go to bottles. thanks a lot for your comment and support
Very nice one!
thanks a lot for your support!
excellent!!! I love green ideas!!! good luck!!! : D
thanks a lot gusmonk¡
Cool : )
thanks a lot peti76 :)
thanks a lot for your support mate!
Interesting approach and look, but I think you need to connect the open sides, otherwise it will flex and break when in use or stacked
thanks for your accurated comment, i triying that but the compression moulding dont allow too many stretch of this material, thinking on that i will made a little change to do better structure of crate,if you see the new details the crate have tabs to do better resistance in open sides to prevent the material breaking. Thanks again for your comment, this are very appreciated by me.
How would the bottles on the end not fall out? ;) Work on the structure but it's a nice idea.
You can see it on slide 5, on the model that there's a curve that keeps the bottle from falling out.
True. Clever way to make sure nothing is moving around!
hi Jess thanks a lot fo your comment! and nini i love your comment, thanks a lot for taking the time to do a little explanation to Jess. my bests for you :)
Very beautiful concept. I really like your choice of material. But I think you need to force the exterior walls of the box. Otherwise, the design will break under load from the top. I look forward to your updates. :)
thanks Ellina, right now are available new updates, and are solved the stability of crate and tha crates now have a tab to prevent the crate falling when are stacked. thanks a lot for comment :)
Good update. But it is not sufficient for rigidity. But I think if you get a chance you will develop it. :)
Like the design of the newspaper,magazine stand.
This a funny use of crate before your life ciclye i like it!
I like your sustainable approach and the black and white crate looks amazing I am just not sure about the stability of stacked crates.8* so far, looking forward to your updates!
Hi nini i made new update to give better stability to crate.
thanks for your support
Cool simple idea ! 9* for you :) Good luck from Poland !
yes!! great design.
thank you very much :)
hmm. how will you stacking it on a palette? and whats happen when it get wet because of liquid??
the satcking right now are solved in the final update posted today, about water Acrodur water base resin are resistant to water and some chemichals before molding are done, when product are manufactured this allow clean it include with presured water. for more info about material please visit: http://www.dispersions-pigments.basf.com/portal/basf/ide/dt.jsp?setCursor=1_614670#Ansprechpartner-Halbzeuge
Thanks a lot for your comment
Just Perfect recicla!! good idea!! =D
muchisimas gracias Samantha por tu apoyo :)
Finally some rational and green design. Good job!
thanks a lot for for sharing your thoughts, for me your comment are bery very appreciated.
greetings from colombia
Excellent work designlabcolombia !!
Muchas gracias cuate! por tu comentario, un abrazo fraternal desde Colombia :)
green idea,great work!
Thanks a lot for your support :)
For implementation i think there could be still some finetuning in designing the shape and functionality - but absolutlty one of my favourites here! Good Luck!
Hi Jesko i now that, right now not are to do the uploading time its out. thanks a lot for your constant feedback.
Great work designlabcolombia!!!
Javier mil gracias por tu apoyo, un gran abrazo desde Colombia :)
Powerful concept and presentation :) I like it a lot!!!
thanks a lot for your comment.
thanks a lot for your support.
very sustainable approach and a clean design :)
Thanks a lot GordonWolfertz for your comment :)
love it! best entry i've seen so far!
wow that are im glad about you think of my design, mate your comment are very appreciated for me.
I really like the simplicity und usability of your crate. Nice idea to use natural fiber.
Very innovative and sustainable!
Is it possible to produce it in mass?
Hi koebes, about your question yes are possible mass production, the proccess are named compression moulding, for this crate i need a 2 steps forming mould. if you have some time this a link of BASF Acrodur presentation about industrial mass processing are available on 5:16 min of video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0tZwYhrkbM
Thanks a lot for your accurated question, and your support :)
interesting... try putting something on the side; it feels like the bottles will drop if tilted when carrying them out the store
Hi demet, thanks a lot for your comment, if you see the slide #16 you see the bottle have a restricted movement and are impossible this fall from sides, the only way to get bottle out its pulling from up of crate.
it is entirely fraudulent to claim your choice of material can support the bottles without deforming or breaking.
Hi teigan thanks a lot for your accurated question, about this material are used actually in paper cases panels, door panels, chairs, and more applications, about strenght of material i trying contact with J. Dittrich & Söhne Vliesstoffwerk GmbH, at this time the answer is only some considerations about how process this material, i triying again to gave more info im waiting for that.
I think if i find the material mechanical data sheet,, the best way is made a prototype and put in to the test. for me at this time are too expensive. but about deformation and breaking im pretty sure this material do a good job, please see the Acrodur BASF video specially the min 5:16 this are focused in production and testing of material.
video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0tZwYhrkbM
Finally the use of new materials is a major challenge that requires research, i think this contest its to find new anwers to solve the crate problem in astetic, functional, and suistanable capthers, and that are my propourse, show to the world a new creative way to solve this question, a good product need design and development, right now are in design stage, please undesrtand that.
Finally teigan, be more polite about how do your comments, i dont accept you call my project fraudulent, i agree with your concern about material but please try be less angry when you comment.
you have designed a shape with unnecessary moment arms(levers) which multiply the force of the bottles falling over. your crate WILL break. there is no research necessary. it won't matter if you use carbon fiber or phenolic or diamonds. the crate will either bend or crack at the bottom corners. it most definitely won't work better with acrodur. so for you to continue claiming that is the correct material choice for your design is most certainly dishonest and misleading. you could have made a more appropriate material choice like steel, but it was more important to you to win "green" points fraudulently.
Well mate, you again do an unpleasant comment, that not are fun, if you have your reserves of my design are great, and i respect your opinion, all your comments are apreciated.
i hope you dedicate more time to your design proposals than you dedicate to accuse the working people. good luck with that.
unusual approach. Good luck!
thanks a lot for your support
looks nice but I dont think you can stack them... and if a crate gets wet it would deform 100%, and during transportation there are many wet envoriments... from the port cargo to a certain backally deposit room behind a shop. good luck!
thanks a lot for your comment, please see the acrodur data sheet, this product are water resistant before are procesed, because this are the function of resin, if you need more info about material please see this video:
more info here: http://www.dispersions-pigments.basf.com/portal/basf/ide/dt.jsp?setCursor=1614670
I know how many people have reserve about this material, but this a design stage, the final product need more research to become a real solution for industry.
tx for the info! :) good luck!
i love the minimal form but doubt it could withstand the pressure of around 150kg of bottles without any deformation. good luck
thanks a lot for your comment!
thanks a lot¡
This deserves a 10****!!!
hey Javier muchas gracias por tu apoyo¡
Good idea ecologically thought. I like it.
thanks a lot matthias
Not 100% convinced concernig stacking and material stability but you did a great design and a well elaborated presentation! Give you 8* for that plus 1* for the fact that you did more than just to re-design the shape.
thanks a lot, very appreciated your comment
i agree here with goforit.
Everything was said! Great work!!
wow that are impressive, thanks a lot
Great work! big 10!
thanks charlito :)
I'm also not 100% convinced of stacking and stability, but i love the thoughts & uniqueness
thanks for your support¡
A plaudit from me for the material selection. Really great.
But it is questionable whether the bearing surfaces will stand the pressure from the upper boxes. An by the way, how the outer bottles can be prevented from falling out? Does really nobody sees the same?
How could such an obviously weak construction will be chosen among the top 10? Very strange voting.
My respect to all designers here, but why do we not communicate openly? If we only write about how great we are, it is implausible.
How can a designer improve his work to become better if constructive criticism is barely practised here?
Hi thanks for your comment, i love it and already hate it :)
I love this design because are doing to many critics to improve it, for me not was good incoming in this contest in 2 final weeks, because the time to do design optimization before good adivices of you or mariopxp, teigan, goforit, dragosliescu and many others including a Arno Mokellen jury of this contest, dont be done :( bad for me.
I confess you, after this contest are closed i worked in more ways to improve this crate, and right now i have a new design with more strength than actual and i think in how are possible do this design to become a real thing, researching about production process and triying direct talk with one german manufacturer of material, to do a good configuration to made virtual simulations of this crate to guarantee the required resistance (but this task is too complicated to do without a engeiner advisory), and not only for this crate already for my another proposal, that was redesigned for only 9 bottles to resist the 150kg or 1470 Newtons of presure in static moment (but this dont be posted because the time of submissions was out). the plant crate are designed for less weight, because is only for 6 bottles, around of 90kg or 882 Newtons, this only a some things i have in my mind all day as obssession.
Well this a little part of history, the point are i dont want deceive any in jovoto, i only want do my best every time, i thank your comment.
I hate about this comment ...... i only say you if you think i do trap, im pretty sure i dont do it, if you have reserves about that please contact the jovoto team and they verify it.
Im soo tired about atacks, but well this a open community and only i have respect and tolerance. i hope this answer fullfill your spectations and you understand more how are my situation.
It is a very nice idea for the material but i miss the coca cola brand character
Very nice...10 for u!
thanks a lot
thanks a lot :)
Wow. A very sustainable idea. Great design. I like!
thanks a lot phillip, im very excited about your comment
Simple shape, easy to carry, sustainable material. Fits in all needs.
Must be higher ratet!!!
Great approach : )
It certainly looks eco friendly - being brown and so on -but I am unsure about the stackability
Hi angelika, i like a lot your words, i know that, i have a couple of ways to do this crate better about stack and resistence, but i tied to actual tecnology of production to do more versatile structural shape. And this material are in recent development, i hope in a close future i have the oportunity to speak with the material developer to upgrade this promising proposal :)
thanks a lot for your feedback, very appreciated for me¡
Only a concept made ??of cardboard! +10 for a bold project
Thanks a lot, but a little correction this material not is a cardboard, this is a water base resin mixed with natural fibers
interesting material proposal. and a very different design :) you got my Bravo for that :)
thanks a lot mate
I like the clean and simple line shape.
Very clever solution indeed. Another thing I like is that you can carry the crate from the middle. It's one of the few solutions of this type from the competition.
The only thing I'm not really sure is the stackability.
Otherwise, beautiful and original design.
Good luck Gerardo! ;)
thanks a lot alexandru¡
Great Job! Good Luck!
Thanks a lot¡
hey mate thanks a lot¡
Congratulations Gerardo! :)
thanks a lot mate¡
Congratulations Gerardo! :) Original idea!!!
Thanks Elina, best to you :)
Hey Peter, thanks a lot¡
Thanks a lot mate¡
Congrats for the two very good proposals!
Thanks nina, very apreciated your comment¡
Realy good idea!
Thanks a lot Mika¡
Wow Silvia, thanks a lot¡
Great approach!!! Congrats ;-)
Thanks a lot marco
Wow! Congrats! This is so beautiful and sustainable. This crate rocks!
Well done! ;)
Thanks for your comment¡
Congratulations!!! the new era of crates has began
Thanks adrian i hope so :)
ARRECHO COLOMBIA!!! CONGRAAAAAAAAAAATS!!!
ESTE TRABAJO ESTA BUENISIMO!!! DE LOS MEJORES!!!
Mil gracias Javier por tus generosas palabras¡
Grat work i like your ideas about the material Congratulations!
Thanks Mario, you already do a great job :)
Felicitaciones Gerardo! del carajo ver a un paisano colombiano en el podio!!! excelente diseño parcero!
Viejo nico, mil gracias por tus palabras, espero seguir viendo tu trabajo por aca, un gran abrazo
Thanks a lot Ramona¡
eyyyy, disfruta del premio!!! Felicitaciones!
hey maestro mil gracias por tus buenos deseos :)
Congratulations great idea
Cool design, Gerardo! Congratulations!