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I added 2 Hypar products! yet 5 products to come!
I love bionic concepts! Haven't heard that hyperbolic shapes are most economic form for draining yet! Thx for the input! :)
I added 2 Hypar products! yet 5 products to come!
Looks nice. Why at the bottom to collect the rain? On top of the system already collects rain?
IT is different products - You can install cocrete panels to collect water from parking lot ground, or You can install shelters to railstation routes or hotel entraces, or as closed parking lot roofs, and collect water from above.
Good idea! maybe its also possible to scale it down and apply to smaller products e.g. garden? beautiful shape!
Of course You can use product nr 2 - Shelter for capture rainwater in smal-scale garden!
you keep bragging you are an expert at architecture and engineering. so why are you claiming that water vortices are hyperbolic? in nature, fluids always take on a parabolic form.
you have no idea what you are talking about and are trying to justify your frivolous design with made up scientific reasons that are blatantly inaccurate. you will not capture more water with a curved shape than a flat shape. and that curved shape will end up being a curse to access and keep clean.
all your 20 comments to my other idea was deleted, so no need to answer to you , good luck!
the fact that my legitimate questions to you and your sloppy responses were all deleted shows that you are not playing fair. and you refuse to respond now because there is no response that can redeem you after being caught bluffing.
As i said i am author of to scientific works about hyperboloids in architecture in nature. And i said you 101 arguments, that is scientificly proved. And You ask me again the same. Your comments deleted not only to me but only in other submitted ideas. so it is no need to anser to you.
it isn't wise of you to add another bluff. anyone who has a high school level of science can verify that you are wrong. whirlpools are parabolic in shape. and they take that shape for reasons contrary to what you've written in your slides.
whirpools are hyperbolic of one sheet in form, of course water as liquid can make any form (also that kind of form that not estimated even in differential geometry) But in process of draining it is a hypar.
wrong. no surface is perfectly smooth, so turbulences can occur making slight variation. but the general shape will never be a hyperbola. it is always a parabolic curvature. so if you did publish a research paper then it is wrong.
The parkinglot idea is very bright. The hyperbolic roofed building not so much, the added energy expense to heat/cool the building along with the lost workspace and expensive glasswork make this unfeasible from an engineering standpoint. Because a surface's ability to collect water is directly related to surface area the fact that it is parabaloid makes no difference to the volume of water collected. A simple and inexpensive rim surrounding the roof of the building would likely yield more water, with a few strategically placed drains and a bit of slanding. The added benefit of additional light is a redeaming feature.
what makes you think parking lots aren't slanted? parking lots are already engineered with swales and culverts to quickly route water away from the concrete. there is no reason to have hollow areas under the concrete which makes construction needlessly complex. just like the roof, collecting water on the sides would be just as efficient and more practical.
Hei BGC! Hypar atrium is a type of large scale atriums in public spaces. Of course it costs a lot, but all atriums costs a lot. Have You been somewhere where some large -scale atrium was installed? All negative things You mention is about all atriums not only hypar - but are also many positive things - and that is why large-scale glass roofed atriums became so popular in architecture.
Agreed and yes, the run off from parking lots and all storm drains go to feed rivers, lakes, etc that the city takes its water supply from. Using it for drinking water especially would be hazardous, who knows what is on the roads, many cities lay salt in the winter, a huge load to remove from water supplies.
In terms of what Busins said, Atriums eh? The thing about your design is that you are maximizing the surface area exposed to air. If you are somewhere that never gets cold then this is probably not a big deal but if your building were to be build anywhere reaching sub zero temperatures it would be rediculously difficult to keep warm i.e. extremely energy intensive and bad for the environment. While atriums are all well and good and it is always nice to get light into a workplace your design has little to do with water conservation or energy conservation for that matter. It is beautiful, I agree but the combined cost of heating, ventilating, and air conditioning, the minimal water collection benefit, and the huge cost and energy required to make the building you are suggesting make it an extremely un-environmentally conscious building.
I should say cold or hot. Hot climates would have major energy expenditures as well
I think that this would make a beautiful building and all areas surrounding it. Nice work on the overall concept. I really enjoyed seeing that you designed the technology in to the building. I think that this is a great start! I am looking forward to seeing more to this concept. Keep up the work : )
Thank you for comment! I updatet with 3 products!
I love your parking lot rooftops' idea, I think it's one of the most originals I've seen so far. Clever thinking.
I keep getting hypnotized by your beautiful image and it draws me in. I do not understand most of it, but I get it. Water goes down. So nice.. like bantamartina said, "looking forward to the sequel"
I think you have developed a good concept, maybe you can think about something easily to adapt the same construtive principle to old parkings / buildings instead build everything from new. (it's just an idea - and I know that's difficult) ; )
You have created some lovely room forms, but I don't see how they will collect any more water than just having a traditional roof with gutters or roof drains.
it was doomed from the get go. i tried to explain the problems to him early in the contest but he refused to acknowledge his errors. he doesn't even understand that draining water particles travel in a parabola path and not a hyperbola as he claims. that is 9th grade math. the whole concept is naive.
Dear gentlements, after some consultations with specialists in the field, I hsould say that hyperboloid form connot collect MORE water, than usual roof - BUT - hypars can collect the water FASTER (but it s not matter lot) and the main thing - that hypars CONCENTRATE all water from surface in one point - and its matter - because it allow easy to filter than and capture to tanks ! and its all.
Of all the ideas i have seen in this, i loved this. Simple and efficient.
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