Or any ordinary citizen of Europe really. Listen up! This is your opportunity to have a huge impact on our near future. We need to show our governments and leaders that we won't let major decisions like this be taken behind our backs. We will prove that democracy is still alive and STOP TTIP from becoming a dark reality. You have done it before, and we have full trust in you to do it again!
I would have one question.. Will Greenpeace run this campaign in Germany or all across Europe, meaning shall we rather come up with slogans in German (which shall be of course translated into English for the non German speaking colleagues), or should we focus on slogans in English from the 1st second on?
Here's an update on this matter Eva:
German-speaking people may submit in German and/or English / Non-German-speaking people should submit in English - however the language will not affect the possibility of being selected by the jury.
Since TTIP might be a bit complicated to understand, we have uploaded a version of the brief in German to be find under 'Download Material'. Or you can download it here.
Something worth keeping in mind when thinking about how to tackle this issue:
Greenpeace is not looking for a campaign against the U.S.A, but a campaign that makes people aware of the TTIP agreement and decides to do something to prevent it from happening. So please no submissions with anti an american message!
The submissions are getting better and better, keep it coming guys!
Great effort Greenpeace, you brought my attention to this urgent topic!
Prior to seeing the project here in jovoto, I've had no idea what TTIP is and that it is actually happening behind our backs...
We will work together to stop the TTIP, as it has to be stopped at all costs!
Good luck to all creatives!
Yesterday we had a chat with Greenpeace to make sure we are on the right track and to get some input early on. Here are a three points that are worth keeping in mind when developing your ideas:
Focus on consumer products
TTIP will affect everyone and MANY products that we buy. This is something we all can grasp so a good way to show the affect of TTIP is to show how our everyday products would change. What is toothpaste like with TTIP? Milk? Meat? Medication?
Think beyond posters
There are many great posters have been submitted so far. That’s great! Now try to take your poster idea one step further. How could it be used as guerrilla marketing? How can it be used in the streets? How could it look as a social media campaign? Take it to the next level!
Put pressure on the politicians
The EU parliament is the institution that will take the final decision on TTIP. We the people decide who will be in the parliament and the one thing politicians fear most is not being elected in the future. They should work for the people who elect them instead for the lobbyists of the big cooperations! Put pressure on the politicians in the EU parliament and make them aware that how they act can affect whether or not they will be elected.
Great effort so far. Nice to see so man people invest their time and creative power into this important issue. Together we will stop TTIP!
Hi All,
I watched this very eye opening documentary on what legal backdoor (arbitral panels) TTIP and CETA may offer to banks, hedgefonds, insurance companies and cooperations - disregarding basic constitutional democracy: http://www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/dokus/sendung/konzerne-klagen-wir-zahlen-102.html .
Sorry it is in German - if I find anything comparable in English I will share it as well.
Regards
Anna
This morning in the news in Germany: The president of the German Bundestag (parliament) threatens to oppose TTIP due to intransparency. Even members of the German parliament have restricted access to current documents and the papers of the negotiation of TTIP. These papers are only accessible in a special reading room at the US Embassy in Berlin. Can we - the people - accept this? Not in my world, no! (Source: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ttip-lammert-droht-mit-nein-zu-freihandelsabkommen-a-1059885.html)
We just had a talk with Greenpeace and I've summarised the halftime feedback for you here above. Some great input in there to help you develop your ideas in the right direction during the remaining 10 days. And come up with new ones of course. Have a look and go gO GO create!
You got a great opportunity here to develop ideas that many other brands would not be able to do. Be daring! Use the streets and our public spaces to communicate the danger with TTIP. Try to find smart ways to use things in our surroundings that usually are not used for communication and turn it in to a powerful communication tool against TTIP.
Looking forward to see more of your guerrilla markting ideas, 9 more days to go gO GO!
Hey Olof! I have a question in general: Should we INTEGRATE a fitting guerilla marketing idea to our OWN SUBMISSION or can we also upload only a good idea for guerilla which can be used for also other submissions from other creatives? Because maybe it will fit to different approaches better than to the one made by my own. :)
Hi Ramona! Good question. If you have a guerrilla idea that does not fit to your own idea, definitely submit it as an individual idea instead. And if you have an guerrilla idea that fits well to someone else's idea, ask to collaborate with that creative. Otherwise that creative may feel like you infringed on their original idea. See what I mean?
Hi guys. Not long now, this long journey finishes in ONLY 3 days and there is so many interesting ideas in there. Many that has great potential to become powerful campaigns that could help stop TTIP. Imagine having that in your portfolio. This is great opportunity to really make a difference in the world and can also be a great beginning of a very fruitful career if you win the client’s choice. Something that might be worth investing those extra hard hours for...
I see so many smart ideas that just need that extra push and effort to become great and finished. Read the brief and have a look at the halftime feedback again to remind yourself what Greenpeace is looking for. Now is the time guys. You have done an amazing job so far. Let’s give this important project the last bit of energy and really stop TTIP!
We are very close to the finish line now guys. If you have smart but unfinished ideas, now is the time to finish them. If you have a clever idea in you head but haven't yet submitted it, time to submit them! VERY curious to see where this journey ends!
What a finish! A lot of great ideas in there now that needs your vote. Have a look at all the ideas and try to rate as many as possible. So far 142 people have rated ideas. Let's try to at least triple that by the end of the next week, shall we? That way we can assure that the creatives with the best ideas gets rewarded for them.
Fair play is unknown word here. If you find member over 20 prizes in community voting and only one of those is client selection it tells everything IMO ;)
I stumbled across this recent video, where Julian Assange tells why TTIP is dangerous
https://youtu.be/yjxAArOkoA0?t=1h15m23s .
It's part of a broader discussion about Europe's future. The discussion about TTIP starts at 1h15m23s.
You have until tomorrow at 17.00 to rate ideas, then the project will be closed and enter rating monitoring. So take this opportunity to rate your favourite ideas to make sure that the creatives with the best ideas gets properly rewarded for them!
We ended up with 4588 individual ratings. Pretty impressive guys! I would also like to remind everyone who have seen their ideas change position drastically during the week, that's normal and a sign that there are a lot of people rating. Not only your idea, but all the others as well. And that's good thing if we look at the big picture. The more people who rate ideas, the fairer outcome!
We will now do rating monitoring of this project and ensure that the whole process has been fair before we announce the final winners sometime next week.
I know many of you are waiting impatiently for the final results. They are on the way! We will present them tomorrow or in the beginning of next week. There are many ratings in this project and it takes some time to ensure that it's al been a fair process. I hope you understand!
After a long process of rating monitoring I can now present you the final community winners. A big congratulations to everyone who won and a big thank you to everyone who participated and put their effort in to this project. You guys have proved that democracy is still very much alive and kicking!
A special thank you to freierwolf
for contributing with great feedback and input on a bunch of ideas. For that he wins the Feedback Award. Also, a special congratulations to voinealex & Epure Lazar Mihail for taking the 1st place in community awards AND winning the Collaboration Award. It shows that it can really pay of to collaborate!
Stay tuned for more information regarding the jury’s choice soon!
I want to be honest: I still find that the number one doesn’t regard even one point of the halftime feedback:
- Think guerilla marketing
- Be concrete and relatable
- Develop a concept out of your idea
- Put pressure on the politicians
And the headlines are anything but good. These are just my two cents.
But the (again: just the first one) visual is great! And brillant ideas should be rewarded.
I want to send a big thank to the jovoto team for giving me the Feedback Award.
Thank you very much.
A strong visual can be VERY powerful and I think this one is. No one looks at that without having a reaction or feeling something. So even if it did not cover all the points, I think it can be very effective. But that's just my opinion. ;)
And thank YOU for your great effort and support to the other creatives!
Actually I do think that the arguments of freierwolf are valid and should be taken in consideration. One could even say that several winning entries do neither provide concepts for campaigns nor a guerilla marketing approach or a solution regarding social media. And all these things were constantly asked for in individual feedbacks and in the halftime feedback, also.
For example the halftime feedback states clearly: ". If you have a clever poster campaign, how could it be developed into guerrilla marketing? " or "Got a nice key visual? Develop a concept out of it!". Sure, a great idea is a great idea, a strong visual is a strong visual. No use denying this. But both aren't concepts. Or do always work in social media or in guerilla marketing.
And there were a lot of entrants that made an extra effort to develop their ideas/visual into concepts including guerilla marketing and/or social media approaches. And I'd assume that these guys would like to get some appreciation for this effort ... or do wonder why they did bother ...
First: From my point of view voinealex is one of those creatives who really tries to develop unique ideas. That is factor i respect. Keep on working that way!
Second: His winning submission is indeed a solid idea with more potential. At the same time i absolutly agree with freierwolf and Pinstipe that it lacks depth. As freierwolf said, the headlines just descripe what the picture is showing. Pinstripe mentioned other aspects like guerilla activity. But i don't want to go in more detail as the contest is over.
Third: With a 9.19 the idea is - at least for me - clearly overrated. But we can't blame the author for that. This final ranking simply shows that:
... the crowd-voting procedure and its outcome in particular in public contests does not reflect the true quality of concepts/ideas. It just reflects the everage understanding of design the crowd has. It starts with understanding the creative task and continues with the conceptual development of ideas. That's why visual approaches dominate. For voters they are easy to grasp without really delve into the task.
... extra effort after halftime or individual feedback is not rewarded. Simple consequece for future contests: no extra effort and a weaker output for the clients.
At this point I want to say one thing very clearly : I don't want or intend to insult any one of the winners or anybody of the persons who voted for them. The idea with the eyes sewn shut is a very strong visual. And I also saw a lot of other work of voinalex – and also do respect his work and his talent. And basically I don't want to talk about single winners or entries.
But during this contest the requests that entrants should provide more, such as concepts, guerilla markerting, social media, "full campaigns" eg. were repeated constantly. And actually this is not the first time this issue mentioned after a crowdstorm. There have often be pleas of jovotians that voting should be according to brief. Or people wondering why entries that aren't on brief are included into the voting and can be winners.
And yes, the consequence could to advice entrants just "to skip brief" and/or to spare themselves extra efforts after (half)time feedback .-)
But that leads to another issue: How shall I myself tackle voting? According to brief? By giving top marks only to ideas that are good and complete according to the brief/halftime feedback? Sounds like a sound and fair way to to it, isn't it?
But wait – what exactly is the brief? The one we did start with? That one plus advice/requests mentioned during feedback and halftime feedback, where in this case the focus seems to have been shifted on guerilla marketing?
(And it also seams not to be unusual in jovoto crowdstorms that the halftime brief differs from the first one).
But, wait again: There a lot of good visuals/approaches that don't quite fullfill brief. Hm. Why's that? Did entrants learn that it might be clever to "skip brief" or not to make "extra efforts"? Well, can I really blame them for that? Or shall I rather give them good marks, because I do agree that that might be a sensible way to act?
Thanks for your consideration around the winning idea and it’s authors- we know it is nothing personal about the team. The core of this task was to create a communication tool such as a key visual for Greenpeace. The halftime feedback is meant to build upon the brief and does not cancel out the core task presented before. How the ideas are ranked- is up to you, the community.
So now, let’s take it off a personal and idea-based level and get to the essence of what you’re talking about. How to rate ideas- Yes, this is can be a very complex task. We developed rating dimensions for this issue so you have the opportunity to rate the idea in its entirety and then the subcategories (which can vary according to ask, but are generally) design and brief.
We felt that because of the straight forward nature of the task (create a communication tool for Greenpeace), we didn’t implement this feature this time- however after the discussion we see here, we see how this could have helped. For the next projects we will take this into consideration.
And just want to add, to avoid any misundestandings: I certainly do also respect the good work and talent of Epure Lazar Mihail. Not only of voinalex.-)
Actually jovoto states that their rating tool does use a logarithm e.g. that takes all that into account. But there is a well known rule for statistics: They work best for a big amount of data. In this voting there were 4588 ratings, as mentioned above. That's a big number. But it's an average of about only 27,5 ratings (approximately) per entry ... it's up to statisticians to figure out if that can be representative .-)
yeah It could work.. Also everything should be 100% transparent(evey votes) to all members but just after voting period. Also comments should be published only if they contain a proposal for improvement
It depends also way how to introduce works to the jury. I saw a picture where jovoto presented only works that succeed in community voting to customer. it was also public competition ;)
The jury members see exactly what you see. Once the project is over, remaining a neutral party, jovoto sends the client a document will all ideas presented. Sometimes a formal presentation is needed. In which case they creates a short list before hand. The decision is 100% and completely up to them. They choose the ideas that they think deserve to win.
this is a reply to DENKdifferent: Well, actually I'm also curious about the jury decision. But regarding the "comments and statements" above: Since there are 12 community (amounting to about 5500 Euro) prices and only 3 Jury prices (amounting to 3000) the chances to win anything at all might be better when aiming at the community instead of the jury ,-)
This is refering to the statement "Guides vote too and openly show which design they like". Well, in this competition there also has been a jury member that openly started that he liked an idea and gave some feedback to this entry. Actually I didn't bother to check, so perhaps I did miss something. In this case I do apologize .-) But as far as I saw this jury member did only comment on one single entry out of 167. That might also be considered to be a bit weird.
If you work as a designer (as a freelander or for an agency), in the end it's always the client who decides whether he likes your idea or not. If you deliver convincing work you keep the client, if not you will loose him.
Community prize money has nothing to do with that. It is no more than an incentive to call as much people as possible to submit work. The voting process as well as the result are 100% uncoupled from the clients perspective. The final community ranking has no importance from jovotos perspective. At the same time they ask some creatives to work out their ideas in more detail because actually they need at least some suitable ideas the client could licence. They want a happy client who comes back, right?!
For creatives on the other hand, during the contest there is no incentive at all to consider what the client is looking for. The chance to win some money is higher if go for the community prize money. Just gain the community's attention to win . I consider this as an important deficit as it does not reward quality.
With introducing the CC we did one step into the right direction. Creatives that were able to satisfy client needs with their ideas get awarded afterwards. Refering to the community prize money we need some changes. I already made proposals some time ago and i will repeat it here:
1.Give the client the possibility to give direct feedback from the early beginning. This can be visible for general feedback and/or only visible for idea owners. Let's do it as in real life. In the first draft phase the client can mark ideas/directions he likes or he can mark things he clearly does not want (only visible for the dea owner). Creatives can concentrate on one or two ideas instead of putting effort into "dead" ideas. There is for sure still a general halftime feedback for everyone. This will encourage people to work out ideas considering the what the client is looking for.
2.Refering to the community voting i have two suggestions:
1) I would not touch the basic idea of community voting but reduce the amount of price money to boost quality. With that money i would implement a "clients selction (CS)" as we have already seen in the last Victorinox contest. The difference: All ideas selected by the client receive a little sum (the same fo each idea regradless where it was ranked by the community). After the final community voting the client simply will select his favorite ideas. How many? The same amount as we have places inthe community ranking. There is no need for the client to rank those ideas from 1 to 12, he is just choosing his 12 favorit ideas. Easy and fast. For the next step we still have the "clients choice (CC)". It won't be touchted.
2) A little more complex to describe but i will try to make it easy. To encourage voters to really give good votes for those ideas that might be the clients favorit ideas, i propose a kind of filter for everyones ratings for an individual contest. Let's call it "my selection" (MS). It won't be an extra voting everybody has to execute but just a filter showing me those ideas i voted best in this contest. The idea is to see at a glance which ideas i currently would place in the first 12 ranks. If i gave 20 ideas a 10, my voting is not very differenciated and i have to readjust my vote until i have 12 clear favorites (give 5 ideas a 10 and 7 ideas a 9). Why should people do this correction? Remember, we have a "clients selection" (CS). ;) Poeple who are able to vote as close to what the client is selecting after the contest will receive "expertise points". Depending on how good your selection matches with the clients selection you gain or loose these points. In contrast to the actual karma-point concept this would really tell something about quality instead of quantity. Poeple who earned a lot "expertise points" could have a bit more weight in the community voting. This whole thing could change how people vote!
Hi there voto, good comments, thinking and some good proposals .-)
At this point I'd like to add something to the "expertise points" you'd like to introduce. That might also help in regard to another issue: The use of third party material.
This brief, and many others, states the following:
"you should only use images and fonts: for which you own the full copyright
for which the exclusive rights can, if required, be passed on to the client.
If 2. applies, please make sure you clearly highlight the third-party image material"
Nonetheless entries that include third party material without giving credits e.g. are included in the voting and can be (community) prize winners.
And here again the attitude "Why should I care about that if many others don't" might be clever and can easily be understood.
But this is another issue where some entrants make an extra effort to be professional and to make sure the client will be able to use/license third party material. To make sure that the client really can use their ideas/campaigns. (And it is definitely easier and less time consuming to pick a photograph e.g. wherever you can lay hands on it.)
And I do assume that the clients are none too happy when they want to make their choice and realise that an entry they like is unusable for them because there are licencing issues
(or because the required quality of data can't be delivered, but that is another issue/point)
Thanks for your input voto, you got some good points here!
First of all I just want to explain a bit more why we have a community award and a client’s choice. Both of them work as an incentive for you to participate in the projects and in the end, properly award the creatives with the best ideas.
The community award is there to empower you the community to have your say in what you think is the best/ most creative ideas. (This is also valuable for the clients. Take the Victorinox project for example. For them to see what you the consumer think is good ideas helps them understand which designs will be popular in the stores.)
The client’s choice is there to give the client the opportunity to license the ideas that they want. (Sometimes it’s not only the ideas that solve the problem in the brief best, but also ideas that they simply did not expect but are still valuable for their business. Something you don’t get from working with an agency and what makes Crowdstorms extra attractive for them).
“Give the client the possibility to give direct feedback from the early beginning“ - Something we have discussed as well many times. In some cases it might work, in some not. Sometimes we don’t want to narrow down the possibilities too early. It’s often valuable for the client to keep the process open in the beginning to get as many different perspectives as possible. That’s the beauty of a Crowodstrom and again, what makes it different form working with an agency. And in other cases it could work quite well, like in the Textile Orbit for example where the client recommends ideas and we let the creatives know straight away by writing them a comment for everyone to see under their idea.
Regarding your first suggestion for rating. To give more money for the client’s choice and less for community award? Super interesting and not the first time this suggestion is raised. We will actually try this out in the next project with Deutsche Bank. Staring on the 17th of December. I’m very excited to hear your response on this and see how it effects the overall result.
As I understand your last idea. You would get more karma if you rate the ideas that the client picks. Correct? Interesting suggestion! Will definitely keep that one in mind.
I want you to know that we always listen to your ideas and discuss them among our team. Sometimes they take time to implement them or they simply don’t work for various reasons. But we gather them all and value them greatly. So thanks a lot!
thanks for your comment and talking the time to explain your position.
Community Award
You took the Victorinox contest as an example. I think it's a good example that community/crowd voting does not work properly because it's done by people who are involved. Only two ideas that were licensed made it under the top 12 in the community voting. My seven ideas had final ranks between 86 and 544!! Finaly 3 (almost 4 ;)) of my 7 ideas went into the top 40 final round. None of the 3 had enough votes to make it under the top 10. So when it's time for public voting, poeple who can activate most supporters will make the race. That is not what i would call valueable for the client because voting results are distorted by private interests. What Eastman did after the design privacy contest is REAL testing because it was done by independent customers.
Clients Choice
No problem here. I agree with you. That's why i said i would leave it like it is.
Direct clients feedback
I think it depends on the task whether a creative needs early or later feedback. Generally i would say early feedback is best for both sides. Depending on how this feedback comes you won't narrow down the direction to early. And if you narrow down one direction, so what, this will give us the time to develop new drections instead of working on dead ends.
Money distibution
What i propose is a little more: 1) Yes, less money for the community award. As it is just a kind of poll to give the client a vague idea about the crowds taste, this should be seen as less precious. 2) A new prize category that i call clients selection (funded with the money we take away from the community prizes). The client is choosing 12 ideas (if we have 12 community prizes) as his favorit ideas at the end and will give each 200 € no matter where they were ranked by the community. This awards a lot of people who realy nailed the task from the clients perspective which is - at least for me - more important than the community perspective. 3) The clients choice can stay the same.
Rethink Karma points
The only advantage and useful thing about Karma i see at the moment, is the minimal amount someone needs to count his votes as valid votes. That's ok but not a strong concept. Yes, you get Karma points if you win community prizes or if your idea gets licensed but is there anyone out there who cares about his karma points??? I never did.
One way to give Karma points a real significance, is to link it to quality and expertise. If you take a look at developer forums, there are levels like newbie, intermediate, advanced, expert, gure etc. that you can achive if your comments and proposals were marked as useful. On jovoto i would connect karma with the quality of everyones voting habit. That is where the idea of "my selection" and the "clients selection" come into play. The question is "What do you think, are the 12 ideas the client likes most?" As i said, the voting as it is now will stay the same. I would just implement a filter or list view, that shows me all ideas i voted for, beginning with the best on to and than going down to the last. The top 12 in the list are highlighted. To rearange the order in you top-list simply adjust your votes. The better your top 12 matches at the end the top 12 of the client, the more karma points you will get. Poeple who reach certain karma levels will have a little more weight with their votes. ATTENTION: You can loose your karma points at all time if your voting does not matches with the clients to 12. This will make voting more important for everyone and will force poeple to vote more precise. Things like "i give you a 10 and you give a 10 to me" will be history.
Once again voto did find good arguments and give valuable feedback .-)
Regarding the Karma points, I myself never really got what's the point of those. Well, a jovotian needs some of them to be allowed to vote. And they seem to indicate an amount of "activity"...
And I'd like to add something to voto's arguments and proposals in regard to voting. He states: "So when it's time for public voting, people who can activate most supporters will make the race."
voto might be right here. Even more if we do talk about a competition, where the average number of of votes per idea isn't high. As it might be the case here in this TIPP-competition. There was an average of about 28 votes per entry. I think there isn't much maths or statistics needed to realize that in this case it might help to be a Jovotian, who isn't a "newbie" but already has some friends/fans/followers who tend to "support" his or her work ... or that only a little bit of "bashing" might destroy the chances to win ...
It's been a while since the discussions above, but I still wanted to share with you that based on your feedback and surrounding discussions, we are doing a test run for two new prizes and a new prizes distribution, more heavily weighted in the client's direction without loosing the Community Prizes. Have a look at this New Community Prizes & Prize Distribution blog post to read all about it.
Many of the other suggestions (especially mentioned by voto here) are in discussion as we continue on our journey to improve the ratings system and prize structure.
Now we are happy to receive your feedback on this first milestone. In the blog post you'll find a link to a discussion board where we're happy to hear from you!
Once again I didn't talk about and don't want to talk about a specific entry or a single person or idea .-)
But even if entrants "mention" that they did use third party material, the clients often can't be sure whether they will be able to license and then use this material or not. And whether this material is available in a size and quality that is sufficient for "printable formats (with 300 dpi)".
And once again an entrant who wants to ensure this will have to make an extra effort ...
Hi Caja, I'd suppose that it isn't the question whether an idea earns a greater reward if it uses third-party material or not .-)
But whether third-party material – if it's needed or used for an idea – really can be licensed (bought, so to speak) by the client or not. And whether the quality of this material (resolution, size e.g.) is sufficent for the idea to really be realized/published/printed/produced. This rather is question about the availabitity of this material, of technical specifications, quality and – last but not least – the copyrights of the authors of this third party material.
Fruitful discussion here. Love the positive and constructive feedback, something we value greatly. You will notice some of your suggestions regarding prize structure here in our next project with Deutsche Bank, starting on thursday for all creatives in the private layer.
I also want to inform you that the jury will make their decision on which three ideas will win the Jury Award in the middle of January
Dear all,
It was really great to see all your ideas here!
If you want to use your creativity once again for a good cause, head over to our new project with Transparency International!
Vote for the most corrupt in the world and help to spread the word about the crimes that many people worldwide suffer from. Let's end grand corruption together!
For you who have been waiting, I can now announce the three winners of the Jury Award.
Here’s the motivation from the Jury:TTIP is a complex and though subject to communicate. The winning submissions quickly make the the problem visually clear and understandable and show that TTIP affect all of us.
Give the winners a big round of applause for their outstanding work! And don’t feel disappointed if you did not win, there competition was very though in this one. You can see the submissions and read the blogpost here.
Greenpeace is now in the process of turning some of these ideas into campaigns. We will keep you posted with more information on that when we know. Stay tuned!
Hi all!
There's a new project on the platform called "Power to the People." The client, Citizens for Democracy i.G., is looking for a key visual/campaign poster to inspire people to stand up and take action. After seeing your campaigns for this project, I wanted to let you know! With €400 awarded each week, I think you all should definitely consider submitting :)
Jess
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Rebels of jovoto!
Or any ordinary citizen of Europe really. Listen up! This is your opportunity to have a huge impact on our near future. We need to show our governments and leaders that we won't let major decisions like this be taken behind our backs. We will prove that democracy is still alive and STOP TTIP from becoming a dark reality. You have done it before, and we have full trust in you to do it again!
Let's stop TTIP guys!
//Olof - Your project guide
I would have one question.. Will Greenpeace run this campaign in Germany or all across Europe, meaning shall we rather come up with slogans in German (which shall be of course translated into English for the non German speaking colleagues), or should we focus on slogans in English from the 1st second on?
Hi Eva, Good questions! Your campaign should be in english. Looking forward to see what you will come up with. ;)
Best, Olof
Here's an update on this matter Eva: German-speaking people may submit in German and/or English / Non-German-speaking people should submit in English - however the language will not affect the possibility of being selected by the jury.
Hope that clarifies things!
Best, Olof
Hi guys,
Since TTIP might be a bit complicated to understand, we have uploaded a version of the brief in German to be find under 'Download Material'. Or you can download it here.
Best, Olof
Hi guys,
Something worth keeping in mind when thinking about how to tackle this issue: Greenpeace is not looking for a campaign against the U.S.A, but a campaign that makes people aware of the TTIP agreement and decides to do something to prevent it from happening. So please no submissions with anti an american message!
The submissions are getting better and better, keep it coming guys!
Best, Olof
Great effort Greenpeace, you brought my attention to this urgent topic! Prior to seeing the project here in jovoto, I've had no idea what TTIP is and that it is actually happening behind our backs...
We will work together to stop the TTIP, as it has to be stopped at all costs! Good luck to all creatives!
Hi guys!
Yesterday we had a chat with Greenpeace to make sure we are on the right track and to get some input early on. Here are a three points that are worth keeping in mind when developing your ideas:
Focus on consumer products TTIP will affect everyone and MANY products that we buy. This is something we all can grasp so a good way to show the affect of TTIP is to show how our everyday products would change. What is toothpaste like with TTIP? Milk? Meat? Medication?
Think beyond posters There are many great posters have been submitted so far. That’s great! Now try to take your poster idea one step further. How could it be used as guerrilla marketing? How can it be used in the streets? How could it look as a social media campaign? Take it to the next level!
Put pressure on the politicians The EU parliament is the institution that will take the final decision on TTIP. We the people decide who will be in the parliament and the one thing politicians fear most is not being elected in the future. They should work for the people who elect them instead for the lobbyists of the big cooperations! Put pressure on the politicians in the EU parliament and make them aware that how they act can affect whether or not they will be elected.
Great effort so far. Nice to see so man people invest their time and creative power into this important issue. Together we will stop TTIP!
Best, Olof
Hi All, I watched this very eye opening documentary on what legal backdoor (arbitral panels) TTIP and CETA may offer to banks, hedgefonds, insurance companies and cooperations - disregarding basic constitutional democracy: http://www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/dokus/sendung/konzerne-klagen-wir-zahlen-102.html . Sorry it is in German - if I find anything comparable in English I will share it as well. Regards Anna
This morning in the news in Germany: The president of the German Bundestag (parliament) threatens to oppose TTIP due to intransparency. Even members of the German parliament have restricted access to current documents and the papers of the negotiation of TTIP. These papers are only accessible in a special reading room at the US Embassy in Berlin. Can we - the people - accept this? Not in my world, no! (Source: http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ttip-lammert-droht-mit-nein-zu-freihandelsabkommen-a-1059885.html)
Dear TTIP fighters!
We just had a talk with Greenpeace and I've summarised the halftime feedback for you here above. Some great input in there to help you develop your ideas in the right direction during the remaining 10 days. And come up with new ones of course. Have a look and go gO GO create!
Best, Olof
Greenpeace have a long history of great guerrilla marketing activities, like this one they did against Shell two years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPjgf\_weF6o
Want some more inspiration for guerrilla marketing activities? Check these out: http://creativepool.com/magazine/inspiration/26-creative-guerilla-marketing-examples.2313
You got a great opportunity here to develop ideas that many other brands would not be able to do. Be daring! Use the streets and our public spaces to communicate the danger with TTIP. Try to find smart ways to use things in our surroundings that usually are not used for communication and turn it in to a powerful communication tool against TTIP.
Looking forward to see more of your guerrilla markting ideas, 9 more days to go gO GO!
Best, Olof
Hey Olof! I have a question in general: Should we INTEGRATE a fitting guerilla marketing idea to our OWN SUBMISSION or can we also upload only a good idea for guerilla which can be used for also other submissions from other creatives? Because maybe it will fit to different approaches better than to the one made by my own. :)
Hi Ramona! Good question. If you have a guerrilla idea that does not fit to your own idea, definitely submit it as an individual idea instead. And if you have an guerrilla idea that fits well to someone else's idea, ask to collaborate with that creative. Otherwise that creative may feel like you infringed on their original idea. See what I mean?
Best, Olof
3 DAYS TO GO!
Hi guys. Not long now, this long journey finishes in ONLY 3 days and there is so many interesting ideas in there. Many that has great potential to become powerful campaigns that could help stop TTIP. Imagine having that in your portfolio. This is great opportunity to really make a difference in the world and can also be a great beginning of a very fruitful career if you win the client’s choice. Something that might be worth investing those extra hard hours for...
I see so many smart ideas that just need that extra push and effort to become great and finished. Read the brief and have a look at the halftime feedback again to remind yourself what Greenpeace is looking for. Now is the time guys. You have done an amazing job so far. Let’s give this important project the last bit of energy and really stop TTIP!
WHO’S WITH ME?!
Best, Olof
24 hour to go!
We are very close to the finish line now guys. If you have smart but unfinished ideas, now is the time to finish them. If you have a clever idea in you head but haven't yet submitted it, time to submit them! VERY curious to see where this journey ends!
Best, Olof
At the moment the journey seams to be heading to another rollercoaster ride during the voting ....
got that impression, too .-)
THANKS TO EVERYONE!
What a finish! A lot of great ideas in there now that needs your vote. Have a look at all the ideas and try to rate as many as possible. So far 142 people have rated ideas. Let's try to at least triple that by the end of the next week, shall we? That way we can assure that the creatives with the best ideas gets rewarded for them.
Here we go, start rating ideas NOW! :)
Best, Olof
Fair play is unknown word here. If you find member over 20 prizes in community voting and only one of those is client selection it tells everything IMO ;)
I stumbled across this recent video, where Julian Assange tells why TTIP is dangerous https://youtu.be/yjxAArOkoA0?t=1h15m23s . It's part of a broader discussion about Europe's future. The discussion about TTIP starts at 1h15m23s.
This campaign made the industry news: http://www.wuv.de/specials/kreative_werbung_der_zukunft/greenpeace_sucht_ttip_motive_ueber_jovoto Great job!
Proper! :D
24 HOURS TO GO!
You have until tomorrow at 17.00 to rate ideas, then the project will be closed and enter rating monitoring. So take this opportunity to rate your favourite ideas to make sure that the creatives with the best ideas gets properly rewarded for them!
Go GO GO!
Best, Olof
RATING IS NOW CLOSED!
We ended up with 4588 individual ratings. Pretty impressive guys! I would also like to remind everyone who have seen their ideas change position drastically during the week, that's normal and a sign that there are a lot of people rating. Not only your idea, but all the others as well. And that's good thing if we look at the big picture. The more people who rate ideas, the fairer outcome!
We will now do rating monitoring of this project and ensure that the whole process has been fair before we announce the final winners sometime next week.
Stay tuned until then!
Best, Olof
Great voting again LOL I can` t stop to laughing :D
Hi guys!
I know many of you are waiting impatiently for the final results. They are on the way! We will present them tomorrow or in the beginning of next week. There are many ratings in this project and it takes some time to ensure that it's al been a fair process. I hope you understand!
Best, Olof
Hi guys!
After a long process of rating monitoring I can now present you the final community winners. A big congratulations to everyone who won and a big thank you to everyone who participated and put their effort in to this project. You guys have proved that democracy is still very much alive and kicking!
See all the winners and congratulate them here: http://www.jovoto.com/blog/2015/10/stop-ttip-greenpeace-crowdstorms-massive-success/
A special thank you to freierwolf for contributing with great feedback and input on a bunch of ideas. For that he wins the Feedback Award. Also, a special congratulations to voinealex & Epure Lazar Mihail for taking the 1st place in community awards AND winning the Collaboration Award. It shows that it can really pay of to collaborate!
Stay tuned for more information regarding the jury’s choice soon!
Best, Olof
democracy :DDDDDD
Congrats to all the winners : )
Congratulations to the winners!
Congratulations to all winners!
I want to be honest: I still find that the number one doesn’t regard even one point of the halftime feedback: - Think guerilla marketing - Be concrete and relatable - Develop a concept out of your idea - Put pressure on the politicians And the headlines are anything but good. These are just my two cents.
But the (again: just the first one) visual is great! And brillant ideas should be rewarded.
I want to send a big thank to the jovoto team for giving me the Feedback Award. Thank you very much.
And please don’t forget to sign if you hadn’t done it, yet: https://stop-ttip.org/sign/?noredirect=en_GB
A strong visual can be VERY powerful and I think this one is. No one looks at that without having a reaction or feeling something. So even if it did not cover all the points, I think it can be very effective. But that's just my opinion. ;)
And thank YOU for your great effort and support to the other creatives!
Best, Olof
yeah agree with Caja ;)
Actually I do think that the arguments of freierwolf are valid and should be taken in consideration. One could even say that several winning entries do neither provide concepts for campaigns nor a guerilla marketing approach or a solution regarding social media. And all these things were constantly asked for in individual feedbacks and in the halftime feedback, also.
For example the halftime feedback states clearly: ". If you have a clever poster campaign, how could it be developed into guerrilla marketing? " or "Got a nice key visual? Develop a concept out of it!". Sure, a great idea is a great idea, a strong visual is a strong visual. No use denying this. But both aren't concepts. Or do always work in social media or in guerilla marketing.
And there were a lot of entrants that made an extra effort to develop their ideas/visual into concepts including guerilla marketing and/or social media approaches. And I'd assume that these guys would like to get some appreciation for this effort ... or do wonder why they did bother ...
next time skip the brief :D
.-)
First: From my point of view voinealex is one of those creatives who really tries to develop unique ideas. That is factor i respect. Keep on working that way!
Second: His winning submission is indeed a solid idea with more potential. At the same time i absolutly agree with freierwolf and Pinstipe that it lacks depth. As freierwolf said, the headlines just descripe what the picture is showing. Pinstripe mentioned other aspects like guerilla activity. But i don't want to go in more detail as the contest is over.
Third: With a 9.19 the idea is - at least for me - clearly overrated. But we can't blame the author for that. This final ranking simply shows that:
... the crowd-voting procedure and its outcome in particular in public contests does not reflect the true quality of concepts/ideas. It just reflects the everage understanding of design the crowd has. It starts with understanding the creative task and continues with the conceptual development of ideas. That's why visual approaches dominate. For voters they are easy to grasp without really delve into the task.
... extra effort after halftime or individual feedback is not rewarded. Simple consequece for future contests: no extra effort and a weaker output for the clients.
At this point I want to say one thing very clearly : I don't want or intend to insult any one of the winners or anybody of the persons who voted for them. The idea with the eyes sewn shut is a very strong visual. And I also saw a lot of other work of voinalex – and also do respect his work and his talent. And basically I don't want to talk about single winners or entries.
But during this contest the requests that entrants should provide more, such as concepts, guerilla markerting, social media, "full campaigns" eg. were repeated constantly. And actually this is not the first time this issue mentioned after a crowdstorm. There have often be pleas of jovotians that voting should be according to brief. Or people wondering why entries that aren't on brief are included into the voting and can be winners.
And yes, the consequence could to advice entrants just "to skip brief" and/or to spare themselves extra efforts after (half)time feedback .-)
But that leads to another issue: How shall I myself tackle voting? According to brief? By giving top marks only to ideas that are good and complete according to the brief/halftime feedback? Sounds like a sound and fair way to to it, isn't it?
But wait – what exactly is the brief? The one we did start with? That one plus advice/requests mentioned during feedback and halftime feedback, where in this case the focus seems to have been shifted on guerilla marketing? (And it also seams not to be unusual in jovoto crowdstorms that the halftime brief differs from the first one).
But, wait again: There a lot of good visuals/approaches that don't quite fullfill brief. Hm. Why's that? Did entrants learn that it might be clever to "skip brief" or not to make "extra efforts"? Well, can I really blame them for that? Or shall I rather give them good marks, because I do agree that that might be a sensible way to act?
Thanks for your consideration around the winning idea and it’s authors- we know it is nothing personal about the team. The core of this task was to create a communication tool such as a key visual for Greenpeace. The halftime feedback is meant to build upon the brief and does not cancel out the core task presented before. How the ideas are ranked- is up to you, the community.
So now, let’s take it off a personal and idea-based level and get to the essence of what you’re talking about. How to rate ideas- Yes, this is can be a very complex task. We developed rating dimensions for this issue so you have the opportunity to rate the idea in its entirety and then the subcategories (which can vary according to ask, but are generally) design and brief.
We felt that because of the straight forward nature of the task (create a communication tool for Greenpeace), we didn’t implement this feature this time- however after the discussion we see here, we see how this could have helped. For the next projects we will take this into consideration.
Best, Olof
Hi there Olaf, thanks for your feedback. Regards Pinstripe
And just want to add, to avoid any misundestandings: I certainly do also respect the good work and talent of Epure Lazar Mihail. Not only of voinalex.-)
..and probably after guide monitoring 4x10+1=8,2 8x10+(1)=10
Actually jovoto states that their rating tool does use a logarithm e.g. that takes all that into account. But there is a well known rule for statistics: They work best for a big amount of data. In this voting there were 4588 ratings, as mentioned above. That's a big number. But it's an average of about only 27,5 ratings (approximately) per entry ... it's up to statisticians to figure out if that can be representative .-)
yeah It could work.. Also everything should be 100% transparent(evey votes) to all members but just after voting period. Also comments should be published only if they contain a proposal for improvement
After reading all of this comments and statements I am very very very curious about the Jury prizes... Maybe it will be a surprise for everybody? :)
It depends also way how to introduce works to the jury. I saw a picture where jovoto presented only works that succeed in community voting to customer. it was also public competition ;)
Hi guys,
The jury members see exactly what you see. Once the project is over, remaining a neutral party, jovoto sends the client a document will all ideas presented. Sometimes a formal presentation is needed. In which case they creates a short list before hand. The decision is 100% and completely up to them. They choose the ideas that they think deserve to win.
And indeed, very curious as well! ;)
Best, Olof
this is a reply to DENKdifferent: Well, actually I'm also curious about the jury decision. But regarding the "comments and statements" above: Since there are 12 community (amounting to about 5500 Euro) prices and only 3 Jury prices (amounting to 3000) the chances to win anything at all might be better when aiming at the community instead of the jury ,-)
This is refering to the statement "Guides vote too and openly show which design they like". Well, in this competition there also has been a jury member that openly started that he liked an idea and gave some feedback to this entry. Actually I didn't bother to check, so perhaps I did miss something. In this case I do apologize .-) But as far as I saw this jury member did only comment on one single entry out of 167. That might also be considered to be a bit weird.
If you work as a designer (as a freelander or for an agency), in the end it's always the client who decides whether he likes your idea or not. If you deliver convincing work you keep the client, if not you will loose him. Community prize money has nothing to do with that. It is no more than an incentive to call as much people as possible to submit work. The voting process as well as the result are 100% uncoupled from the clients perspective. The final community ranking has no importance from jovotos perspective. At the same time they ask some creatives to work out their ideas in more detail because actually they need at least some suitable ideas the client could licence. They want a happy client who comes back, right?!
For creatives on the other hand, during the contest there is no incentive at all to consider what the client is looking for. The chance to win some money is higher if go for the community prize money. Just gain the community's attention to win . I consider this as an important deficit as it does not reward quality. With introducing the CC we did one step into the right direction. Creatives that were able to satisfy client needs with their ideas get awarded afterwards. Refering to the community prize money we need some changes. I already made proposals some time ago and i will repeat it here:
1.Give the client the possibility to give direct feedback from the early beginning. This can be visible for general feedback and/or only visible for idea owners. Let's do it as in real life. In the first draft phase the client can mark ideas/directions he likes or he can mark things he clearly does not want (only visible for the dea owner). Creatives can concentrate on one or two ideas instead of putting effort into "dead" ideas. There is for sure still a general halftime feedback for everyone. This will encourage people to work out ideas considering the what the client is looking for.
2.Refering to the community voting i have two suggestions:
1) I would not touch the basic idea of community voting but reduce the amount of price money to boost quality. With that money i would implement a "clients selction (CS)" as we have already seen in the last Victorinox contest. The difference: All ideas selected by the client receive a little sum (the same fo each idea regradless where it was ranked by the community). After the final community voting the client simply will select his favorite ideas. How many? The same amount as we have places inthe community ranking. There is no need for the client to rank those ideas from 1 to 12, he is just choosing his 12 favorit ideas. Easy and fast. For the next step we still have the "clients choice (CC)". It won't be touchted.
2) A little more complex to describe but i will try to make it easy. To encourage voters to really give good votes for those ideas that might be the clients favorit ideas, i propose a kind of filter for everyones ratings for an individual contest. Let's call it "my selection" (MS). It won't be an extra voting everybody has to execute but just a filter showing me those ideas i voted best in this contest. The idea is to see at a glance which ideas i currently would place in the first 12 ranks. If i gave 20 ideas a 10, my voting is not very differenciated and i have to readjust my vote until i have 12 clear favorites (give 5 ideas a 10 and 7 ideas a 9). Why should people do this correction? Remember, we have a "clients selection" (CS). ;) Poeple who are able to vote as close to what the client is selecting after the contest will receive "expertise points". Depending on how good your selection matches with the clients selection you gain or loose these points. In contrast to the actual karma-point concept this would really tell something about quality instead of quantity. Poeple who earned a lot "expertise points" could have a bit more weight in the community voting. This whole thing could change how people vote!
Hi there voto, good comments, thinking and some good proposals .-) At this point I'd like to add something to the "expertise points" you'd like to introduce. That might also help in regard to another issue: The use of third party material.
This brief, and many others, states the following: "you should only use images and fonts: for which you own the full copyright for which the exclusive rights can, if required, be passed on to the client. If 2. applies, please make sure you clearly highlight the third-party image material"
Nonetheless entries that include third party material without giving credits e.g. are included in the voting and can be (community) prize winners.
And here again the attitude "Why should I care about that if many others don't" might be clever and can easily be understood.
But this is another issue where some entrants make an extra effort to be professional and to make sure the client will be able to use/license third party material. To make sure that the client really can use their ideas/campaigns. (And it is definitely easier and less time consuming to pick a photograph e.g. wherever you can lay hands on it.)
And I do assume that the clients are none too happy when they want to make their choice and realise that an entry they like is unusable for them because there are licencing issues (or because the required quality of data can't be delivered, but that is another issue/point)
And Jovotions that have shown "expertise" might be able to take this into account when they're voting.
Thanks for your input voto, you got some good points here!
First of all I just want to explain a bit more why we have a community award and a client’s choice. Both of them work as an incentive for you to participate in the projects and in the end, properly award the creatives with the best ideas.
The community award is there to empower you the community to have your say in what you think is the best/ most creative ideas. (This is also valuable for the clients. Take the Victorinox project for example. For them to see what you the consumer think is good ideas helps them understand which designs will be popular in the stores.)
The client’s choice is there to give the client the opportunity to license the ideas that they want. (Sometimes it’s not only the ideas that solve the problem in the brief best, but also ideas that they simply did not expect but are still valuable for their business. Something you don’t get from working with an agency and what makes Crowdstorms extra attractive for them).
“Give the client the possibility to give direct feedback from the early beginning“ - Something we have discussed as well many times. In some cases it might work, in some not. Sometimes we don’t want to narrow down the possibilities too early. It’s often valuable for the client to keep the process open in the beginning to get as many different perspectives as possible. That’s the beauty of a Crowodstrom and again, what makes it different form working with an agency. And in other cases it could work quite well, like in the Textile Orbit for example where the client recommends ideas and we let the creatives know straight away by writing them a comment for everyone to see under their idea.
Regarding your first suggestion for rating. To give more money for the client’s choice and less for community award? Super interesting and not the first time this suggestion is raised. We will actually try this out in the next project with Deutsche Bank. Staring on the 17th of December. I’m very excited to hear your response on this and see how it effects the overall result.
As I understand your last idea. You would get more karma if you rate the ideas that the client picks. Correct? Interesting suggestion! Will definitely keep that one in mind.
I want you to know that we always listen to your ideas and discuss them among our team. Sometimes they take time to implement them or they simply don’t work for various reasons. But we gather them all and value them greatly. So thanks a lot!
All the best, Olof
Hi Olof,
thanks for your comment and talking the time to explain your position.
Community Award You took the Victorinox contest as an example. I think it's a good example that community/crowd voting does not work properly because it's done by people who are involved. Only two ideas that were licensed made it under the top 12 in the community voting. My seven ideas had final ranks between 86 and 544!! Finaly 3 (almost 4 ;)) of my 7 ideas went into the top 40 final round. None of the 3 had enough votes to make it under the top 10. So when it's time for public voting, poeple who can activate most supporters will make the race. That is not what i would call valueable for the client because voting results are distorted by private interests. What Eastman did after the design privacy contest is REAL testing because it was done by independent customers.
Clients Choice No problem here. I agree with you. That's why i said i would leave it like it is.
Direct clients feedback I think it depends on the task whether a creative needs early or later feedback. Generally i would say early feedback is best for both sides. Depending on how this feedback comes you won't narrow down the direction to early. And if you narrow down one direction, so what, this will give us the time to develop new drections instead of working on dead ends.
Money distibution What i propose is a little more: 1) Yes, less money for the community award. As it is just a kind of poll to give the client a vague idea about the crowds taste, this should be seen as less precious. 2) A new prize category that i call clients selection (funded with the money we take away from the community prizes). The client is choosing 12 ideas (if we have 12 community prizes) as his favorit ideas at the end and will give each 200 € no matter where they were ranked by the community. This awards a lot of people who realy nailed the task from the clients perspective which is - at least for me - more important than the community perspective. 3) The clients choice can stay the same.
Rethink Karma points The only advantage and useful thing about Karma i see at the moment, is the minimal amount someone needs to count his votes as valid votes. That's ok but not a strong concept. Yes, you get Karma points if you win community prizes or if your idea gets licensed but is there anyone out there who cares about his karma points??? I never did. One way to give Karma points a real significance, is to link it to quality and expertise. If you take a look at developer forums, there are levels like newbie, intermediate, advanced, expert, gure etc. that you can achive if your comments and proposals were marked as useful. On jovoto i would connect karma with the quality of everyones voting habit. That is where the idea of "my selection" and the "clients selection" come into play. The question is "What do you think, are the 12 ideas the client likes most?" As i said, the voting as it is now will stay the same. I would just implement a filter or list view, that shows me all ideas i voted for, beginning with the best on to and than going down to the last. The top 12 in the list are highlighted. To rearange the order in you top-list simply adjust your votes. The better your top 12 matches at the end the top 12 of the client, the more karma points you will get. Poeple who reach certain karma levels will have a little more weight with their votes. ATTENTION: You can loose your karma points at all time if your voting does not matches with the clients to 12. This will make voting more important for everyone and will force poeple to vote more precise. Things like "i give you a 10 and you give a 10 to me" will be history.
Once again voto did find good arguments and give valuable feedback .-)
Regarding the Karma points, I myself never really got what's the point of those. Well, a jovotian needs some of them to be allowed to vote. And they seem to indicate an amount of "activity"...
And I'd like to add something to voto's arguments and proposals in regard to voting. He states: "So when it's time for public voting, people who can activate most supporters will make the race."
voto might be right here. Even more if we do talk about a competition, where the average number of of votes per idea isn't high. As it might be the case here in this TIPP-competition. There was an average of about 28 votes per entry. I think there isn't much maths or statistics needed to realize that in this case it might help to be a Jovotian, who isn't a "newbie" but already has some friends/fans/followers who tend to "support" his or her work ... or that only a little bit of "bashing" might destroy the chances to win ...
Hi everyone,
It's been a while since the discussions above, but I still wanted to share with you that based on your feedback and surrounding discussions, we are doing a test run for two new prizes and a new prizes distribution, more heavily weighted in the client's direction without loosing the Community Prizes. Have a look at this New Community Prizes & Prize Distribution blog post to read all about it.
Many of the other suggestions (especially mentioned by voto here) are in discussion as we continue on our journey to improve the ratings system and prize structure.
Now we are happy to receive your feedback on this first milestone. In the blog post you'll find a link to a discussion board where we're happy to hear from you!
Best, Jess
http://www.ttip-poster.eu/files/ttip/Planer_ttip_2.jpg https://glasalt.wordpress.com/2014/12/09/what-lies-beneath-the-threat-of-ttip/
some nice examples from elsewhere I found :)
agree :D
Your welcome Caja!
Once again I didn't talk about and don't want to talk about a specific entry or a single person or idea .-)
But even if entrants "mention" that they did use third party material, the clients often can't be sure whether they will be able to license and then use this material or not. And whether this material is available in a size and quality that is sufficient for "printable formats (with 300 dpi)".
And once again an entrant who wants to ensure this will have to make an extra effort ...
Hi Caja, I'd suppose that it isn't the question whether an idea earns a greater reward if it uses third-party material or not .-)
But whether third-party material – if it's needed or used for an idea – really can be licensed (bought, so to speak) by the client or not. And whether the quality of this material (resolution, size e.g.) is sufficent for the idea to really be realized/published/printed/produced. This rather is question about the availabitity of this material, of technical specifications, quality and – last but not least – the copyrights of the authors of this third party material.
:-)
Hi guys!
Fruitful discussion here. Love the positive and constructive feedback, something we value greatly. You will notice some of your suggestions regarding prize structure here in our next project with Deutsche Bank, starting on thursday for all creatives in the private layer.
I also want to inform you that the jury will make their decision on which three ideas will win the Jury Award in the middle of January
All the best, Olof
Oh... What a pitty...
Dear all, It was really great to see all your ideas here!
If you want to use your creativity once again for a good cause, head over to our new project with Transparency International!
Vote for the most corrupt in the world and help to spread the word about the crimes that many people worldwide suffer from. Let's end grand corruption together!
READ THE BRIEF HERE
See you there, Dora
The middle of January is coming! :)
The end of January is approaching, so to say :-)
You will know next week Pinstripe, promise! ;)
Hi guys!
For those of you who are waiting I can inform you that the jury have made their decision and we will announce the winners here next week!
Stay tuned, almost there...
Best, Olof
Just to clarify! The winners have not yet been contacted. The ones who win will be informed about that next week. :)
Best, Olof
The jury’s final decision has arrived!
For you who have been waiting, I can now announce the three winners of the Jury Award.
Here’s the motivation from the Jury:TTIP is a complex and though subject to communicate. The winning submissions quickly make the the problem visually clear and understandable and show that TTIP affect all of us.
Without any further ado, the winners of the Jury Award are: Between the lines by Epure Lazar Mihail Hormones go haywire by ann EYES CLOSED / HANDS TIED / MOUTH OPEN by voinealex & Epure Lazar Mihail
Give the winners a big round of applause for their outstanding work! And don’t feel disappointed if you did not win, there competition was very though in this one. You can see the submissions and read the blogpost here.
Greenpeace is now in the process of turning some of these ideas into campaigns. We will keep you posted with more information on that when we know. Stay tuned!
All the best, Olof
Awesome work, guys. Congrats!!!!
Hi guys,
Your ideas are being spread in the media! Check out this article from the German newspaper Horizont (In German) about the jury award winners: http://www.horizont.net/agenturen/nachrichten/TTIP-Mit-diesen-Kampagnen-Motiven-will-Greenpeace-das-Abkommen-verhindern-138561
Something to tell your friends and family about. Great job once again!
Best, Olof
Hi all! There's a new project on the platform called "Power to the People." The client, Citizens for Democracy i.G., is looking for a key visual/campaign poster to inspire people to stand up and take action. After seeing your campaigns for this project, I wanted to let you know! With €400 awarded each week, I think you all should definitely consider submitting :) Jess