The creatives are from different disciplines and backgrounds, meaning that their ideas proposed will be diverse, but because certain projects are not their area of expertise, they might not be coming up with a proper solution.
Opportunity or risk?
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Yes you are absolutely right! This is a big problem. Therefore I only vote in projects where I read the briefing and understand the task. And projects which fits to my profession. Means I am not voting for example in architecture projects, because I know nothing about the important things you have to know as an architect. It would not be good to vote for a nice presentation or picture and at least the building or bridge or what ever will not be able to build. :)
That is good, Ramona. It is true that there are some disciplines that are similar, and therefore creatives could maybe have an opinion on proposals that are not their area, but, usually in crowdsourcing we believe we are experts on everything. :P And you are right, it is not good to vote only for the nice presentation. Thanks for commenting
Dear oxelot,
As always, your submission is very clever and self-explanatory.
I also feel that your observation is on point. And I am also aware of this risk for the clients, not only for creatives.
I guess it depends on clarifying from the beginning what the crowdstorm is about - is it a contest for ideas (which don't need to be 100% feasible) or for feasible solutions. What do you think? Would that help? or do you have a better idea? :) I am curious about that.
Hugs, Diana
Thanks, and yes, maybe claryfing the feasibility of the output would be a good solution. But then, ideas that are not possible to make, would they still be good ideas? True is that there is a fine line between being creative and crazy. Although, isnt it why the clients approach to the crowdsourcing? to find a creative solution but still possible to make? In my sincere opinion, there should always be an expert-in-the-area person (jury or a guide) moderating and managing the project helping the creatives to come up with more feasible proposals. This would improve the output of the project and also the creatives would learn and become better.
Thank you for picking up on this and for the great discussion. The idea of having an expert guide on the topic would definitely solve that.
I just want to add one thing. The purpose of the current Community awards is to give awards to great, interesting, out of the box ideas that may not be 100% feasible, but we want to award anyways those from whom we all (creatives in a crowdstorm) get to grow a bit from their fun of creating and of trying out stuff that might not be 100% fit.
If we switch the focus to solutions, then indeed the Community Awards would have to become expert awards or client awards. Would you enjoy that more?
x Diana
Ha... Ha...I never know that the community's prize is so much open, so widely big ... out of the box ! When i rate & rank the idea, so many ideas is really ridiculous to be implement in the reality, but It is fun & very creative! Very struggle to give the stars as I don't really know what the purpose of community's prize are!
I am with Jorge, I would also appreciate to have a so called "expert" who could guide us in terms of feasibility.. Maybe it would be a good solution (ideally) if somebody from the client could take part in the projects (in terms of guiding), who could actively follow and comment on the submitted ideas.. This way there would be a way better (more or less direct) interaction with the client, the submitted ideas would be more "on the brief". Now the only interaction we have is the half time feedback.. I would also welcome if we all would give each other more feedback without being afraid of getting bashed.. I might repeat myself, but I think we can only improve ourselves respectively our submitted ideas, if we receive a feedback (if possible constructive one).. We should not forget the goal / reason of this platform. It is not about winning community prizes, but to fulfill as much as possible the requirements of the client and to come up with the best possible solution. A client which is highly satisfied with the end result, brings also credits to jovoto, which might bring new clients to this platform..
Yes indeed Eva. I will try and gove more feedback at least regarding the topics I have some experience.
I'll try to do the same Jorge (as much as I can).. As far as "Diversity" is concerned I agree with you, we all have different backgrounds, therefore the range of the submitted solutions is (could be) extremely wide.. Based on that wide range the customer shall take his / her decision and pick the one he / she thinks fits the best.. As far as "Wrong output" is concerned, yes, because of the different backgrounds the proposed solution might not be the best one (or even completely wrong), but sometimes it could also happen that somebody who is not an expert on that specific area comes up with an "out of the box" idea, which might not be elaborated the perfect way, but as an idea it might fulfill the requirements of the client 100%.. I think it is pretty tough to say "this is wright, this is wrong", and most probably because we all have different backgrounds and we (might) judge things differently, from our own point of view.. I like your submission a lot, cause it opens the door for a great discussion!
@Diana: >If we switch the focus to solutions, then indeed the >Community Awards would have to become expert awards >or client awards. Would you enjoy that more?
Yes, I'd enjoy them much more!
Diesem Erklaerungsmodell stimme ich voll und ganz zu. Man könnte wunderbare Videos dazu erstellen
it totally agree on your explanatory modell - one could do very funny videoclips out of it
Amazing final result & starightforward message. Thank you, oxelot, for delighting our eyes and minds. :)
Dear oxelot, I find your idea hilarious and very true :P I think that it depicts the creativity and individuality of crowdworkers in a fun way and from a neutral perspective.
You have a point in your view Jorge but I think there is also a good thing about people of different backgrounds working on a project out of their fields, may be a lot of the solutions proposed by those group are not feasible but normally there are a few of them that could be taken into reality with a few touchs and arrive with the nerve of some ignorance. Let me give you an example, if I´m asked to design a stair for example I face the challenge with all the regulations it has to fulfill (about fire protection, security usage, ...) in mind, and it´s hard not to think about them when you´ve been working on a field for a number of years but someone with a different training background don´t know about the rules and designs with more fredom and sometimes that produces a really cheeky solution (not always). And by the way I love the architect´s solution : D
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