Crowdworking can be compared to gambling - three main elements are present: consideration, chance & prize! Both are ' events' with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money.
Opportunity or risk?
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thanks! hope i can run the updates soon;) i appreciate your feedback when the time has come!:)
hey Ramona - ein kleines booklet ist entstanden! schau doch mal rein:)
thanks for commenting! Yes, keeping the brain functions running is good;) Dopamine is released when a reward is expected which increases the prefrontal area of our brain! We creatives need this...and crowdworking is a good opportunity for training our potentials. Unfortunately we often tend to think to much with our heart/emotions...
...and this can be good and not so good - it's a thin red line;) helping others and contributing in individual ideas is productive. Bashing ideas to get a better standing or just because somebody didn't 'love' your idea in return is unproductive. Furthermore we participate because it's fun - we enjoy it and this is subjectively very emotionally ....we invest much time but the reward is very uncertain! We definitely gain skills and can build a networks e.g. - nice advantages for our future. BUT somehow we also have to pay our bills today! What i'm saying is the companies which are using this outsourcing and receiving a flood of ideas and within also very smart ideas will appear - gain the best advantages and profit of these platforms. My solution would suggest that especially BIG BRANDS should provide ‘participation payments’. Small amounts from 10 to 50 Euros e.g.. I am aware this cannot be placed on every competition. We designers would appreciate this initiative. Maybe this could lead to a flood of contest-submissions under quantity aspects....BUT to avoid this one could only be paid when e.g. the briefing-points are completely achieved from the contestant!? I know this is a difficult topic and not easy to accomplish.....
How can this be solved? Has somebody got an idea for general 'participation payments’? Any suggestions?
This is a good conversation, Stephan. I am also curious what they others have to add. :)
I agree with you "stephenlaubert", as it feels like the companies that use Jovoto are the ones creating value for their customers and capturing value for themselves. This is achieved through your hard work, as they may be saving money by using external sources to generate ideas as opposed to doing it internally. Would you agree? I am also a bit unsure how the liscening works. Does that mean that the designer is only paid once for the design to be used? Or do they have ownership of the design and can sell it to someone else? Do they receive ongoing royalties?
agree, dhann! thanks for hitting on some points:) definitely the amount of money companies invest into such platforms is relatively little compared to the amount of ideas which are generated. Inspired by the flood of ideas these companies will take advantage of it internally for sure...maybe also years after the competition is over. And then it's almost impossible to prove it was once your idea....I mean we also agree to the FAQ's and somehow we are also fault creating this situation...but it's definitely an opportunity in many ways!! i really like this platform but i also think it can be developed on and on! Also special competitions should have special arrangements e.g. as you said - in relation to licensing terms. Sometimes it is really questionable but as long as you agree to the conditions in the beginning it will go on and on. This competition for e.g can be an eye-opener for all involved and an opportunity to create a new perception on crowdworking in future! But as very often the true intention is not mentioned in this contest ... and all are left in the dark! BUT hey - now i learned a few new features in illustrator while doing this work;)))))
Hi stephanlaubert,
I like the idea and the design of your submission. I am very curious to see your updates.
Cheers, Diana
Hi Diana, I updated my idea with a portable booklet. I hope you like it! Cheers, Stephan
This is looking good!! Gambling is a good analogy in may ways, following this :) very cool, the visuals are great!
thank you for your feedback, gusmonk! I updated the idea and created a booklet within this theme. What do you think?
Playful analogy. "Gambling" and "game" with all their pieces create a interesting system in this issue.
thank you, orangerender! yes we're playing a sort of game here isn't it? ..and from games we can learn much for the future! especially from our mistakes! we develop within this platform...as your comic also shows us;)
Yes, that's the way. Awesome update, stephanlaubert!!! Excellent job =D
Sauber Stephan, großartig wie du die Aufgabe angepackt, gelöst und präsentiert hast!!! Hut ab! I like the way you combined it with gambling, cause if are all honest, it is a gamble to take part on projects, it is a gamble working on ideas, you never know whether it will pay off or not.. It is also true that it is our own decision whether we would like to take part in it or not.. At the beginning (as a newbie on the platform) where everything is unknown, uncertain, maybe we are all led by curiosity, just willing to try out something which we haven't done it / experienced it before (kind of "why not?"). If you're already trouper (ein alter Hase) on that specific platform, you did a lot of projects and gained a lot of experience, your decision whether to take part on a future project will be (might be) driven by the factors based on your experience. I think it is a topic we could discuss about for hours and hours :) Well done!
Hello Eva, your words break it down to the essential statement i wanted to show within this booklet and i'm happy that it's understandable. Thank you very much for the feedback and supporting the idea!:) Yes! everybody has to decide whether taking part or not:)..and this topic can be discussed on and on - i think it's a great project and many are able to reflect on some points that weren't omnipresent until now. But all entries show a similar direction - 'uncertainity'! It's uncertain if you will win a prize - but certainly you will gain experience and also references;) Carl Sandburg would say; "to be a good loser is to learn how to win"
thank you, Epure Lazar! happy to hear you like it!
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almost 4 years agoReally great stephen honest and very professional presentation.love the color theme and the concept.Good Luck to you.
Great thoughts around gambling and crowdworking and very cool graphics ; )
glad you like it, flegido! thank you for commenting your thoughts;)
at least it remains exiting;) thank you, John - glad you like it!
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! Das ist aber auch eine echt tolle Arbeit! Viel zu schade für die Schublade!!! :)
Dankeeee Ramona! ..aber wohin kommt sie denn nun?;)
Congratulations stephanlaubert, one of my favoite works here!!! :D
happy to hear you liked it a lot!!!:D thanks, gusmonk!!! it's hard to compete with your awesome work i admire - but always makes fun!:)
Ich schließe mich an, KLASSE Arbeit Stephan!! Herzlichen Glückwunsch!!!
Danke der tollen Worte und für Eure Unterstützung! Herzlichen Glückwunsch zum verdienten Feedback- Award Eva!!!:) deine Kommentare haben hier den Laden in Schwung gehalten!
Big congrats, Stephanlaubert!!! Definitely a great and unique work!!!! Well done!!! =D
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