Your Swiss Army Knife 2014

Awesome presentation and awesome designs :)

Indeed!

Just great!!!

hmmm... where is 2012 collection? ;] This is Great presentation! :]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

Great presentation

;) I KNOW! But it's not really about not having a similar concept idea that someone had 2 years ago and doing it better, but more about not re-submitting your old designs. And of course completely new & fresh ones are the most welcome as they have not been proposed to Victorinox yet! :) I am super excited to see what you come up with this year! It's always bit like christmas ;) Good luck and lots of fun to all! BRING IT ON!

Hey Lee! That information is always displayed when you submit an idea on the top of the page: "In this project, you may still submit (nr) ideas." In this case you can upload up to 10 designs! :)

Ah ok thanks. So, I have more ideas than 10 - I can do a series of designs in one submission?

Hey there! Well, the briefing already says: "Please do not submit a design series, but just ONE idea and make sure that your final design is always at the top so it will be displayed in the overview of ideas." However if you can't help it, you can work on a series and maybe even use the community feedback to then pick your "best one" which should be your front slide that can be seen in the idea overview. Victorinox is not looking for series, they are again looking for 10 single (and different) designs.

Perfect Dora! Thanks for your input :)

Hi there! In the Downlad material you find "packshots" - that should be helpful! The size of the casing is 58 mm (long).

Thanks! Nice project! :-)

:) Yes! Looking forward to your ideas!

Dear Sebastian! Anyone and everyone can participate! Would love to see your ideas! :)

I agree! :)

Well, chocolate we already had quite a few times in the past 2 projects - one of them has even been already licensed for the permanent collection! Have a look here: http://www.victorinox.com/ch/product/Swiss-Army-Knives/Category/Classic/Classic-Range-58-mm/Classic-Chocolate/0.6223.842 So I doubt they would want another version of swiss chocolate again ;)

Hi there! Just like last time? We have similar downloads this year. What do you mean exactly? You can also go back to the old downloads if you miss something that you liked last time :)

I am actually going to add the ones from last time here too now! So you can get it all :)

I just added 2 more Downloads!

Thank you!!!

http://victorinox2013.jovoto.com/briefing

Click on the "Position Logo" in Download material. It is a PDF with vector drawing in it. Illustrator opens it fine.

Hi there! I just added 2 more Download materials :)

Hi..I can see it now.

Great :)

Hi there! :) Good question! As a reference for the edges please take a look at the previous designs (in the Downloads : Packshots LE 2014) or on the website here: http://www.victorinox-aroundtheworld.com/

Ok, so it wasn't seamless, but they did use different background colors - is it only black, red, and white, or others as well? Colors would be helpful... :)

i will check this and let you know

I m just doing a full print for the mockups now, since it looks best.... and hope the technicians at Victorinox can make it look great with whatever method they will be using. :)

Sooo I am back with the promised answer. Only flat areas can be printed, the rounded ones not anymore. The standard colors are: red, red transparent, blue, blue transparent, black, moss-green, white.

Dear Robhoski! You are allowed to submit 10 designs altogether. This information you can see in the upload form. What the briefing asks for is one idea EACH - because Victorinox is not looking for 1 series but (in the end) but 10 DIFFERENT designs. I hope it's more clear now :)

Yeah, specialy if that background is downloaded from internet.

Well in that case the design is not accepted, see briefing: "Only submit designs for which you own the full copyright and image rights. This includes, for example, pictures of celebrities or third-party brands. The use of stock material is NOT desired either. "

well, the briefing doesn't say so this time .. ;)

But again, we are talking 6cm knives that are mainly used as a fashionable key chain... right? I just don't see too many guys carrying those?

oh I know guys with that! ;D

...but I will double check with Victorinox for you!

I got one as a gift a few years ago (with more tools than the one displayed in the template) and I don't carry it around as a key chain. It came in handy in lots of occasions (for opening beer bottles and cut thick plastic for example). And it has a manly look.

I think we are talking about this small specific one, Waserone. These are not that manly indeed. Bough one for my girlfriend and I agree with CrossTheLime, if you pay attention it is a women's kit: Nail file, tweezers...

oxelot, we're talking about the same thing. It can be manly, depends on the illustration or the plastic color. Mine is all black with a red logo. The Nail file is also a screw driver... think about that. It's a fairly universal product. I also have 2 big pocket knifes, classic red. If women were the target it would be stated in the briefing, right?

Just saying, as in previous projects it was mainly for women. Not this one, I guess...

Back to this discussion: We received a feedback from Victorinox (posted here under the briefing) AND as it looks like at the moment, they DO wish at this point (after seeing what has been submitted so far) for some more female designs. They feel there's a lot of cute submissions as well as designs for men - yet not sooo many really feminine ones for the target group women :)

Bummer that such a tiny percentage will actually get community prizes. :)

Wooow! Super lovely style. Welcome :)))

That's such a lovely welcome! So nice, guys! :)

Hi there drossi! I am not sure I completely understood what you mean.. Is this the same question as CrossTheLime asked too? here: http://victorinox2014.jovoto.com/briefing?limitcomments=all#comment_568889 In that case I will post the answer from the client here asap :)

Yes, same question :) Thx a lot Dora :)

Sooo I am back with the promised answer. Only flat areas can be printed, the rounded ones not anymore. The standard colors are: red, red transparent, blue, blue transparent, black, moss-green, white.

http://www.victorinox.com/ch/product/Swiss-Army-Knives/Category/Classic/Classic-Range-58-mm/Classic-Chocolate/0.6223.842 (N°138 last year)

I absolutely agree with oxelot and I was this opinion from beginning on with hidden ranks, but no TOP FILTERS!!!

Agree!!!!

Agree!

Agree! :) and I suggest to add an explanation requirement for voting, as it will help to filter non constructional voting! as people here just trying to kick down others ! by lowering rating :( because they are jealous :(((

You're right! The mechanism is specially for new users unfavorable! Because of the point in time you have submitted your ideas (depends on the hour & your fame in the network) nobody has lust to scroll to number for e.g. 300 and vote your idea. So everybody look in the top 50/20. But there you can't find me or you. Nobody knows me-or you! My suggestion: install a changing board, where all ideas can find and changing every second. With this all designers have the same chance! And how we say in the game theory: if there are tops, people will decide for tops and vote automatically for the tops!

I agree too!

agree, dora?

Hi there! I see your points, let me tell you how I see this: 1 - about the TOP 20 : we do rating monitoring and so the bashers will be put on false anyway. Actually with a randomized TOP 20 it is even easier to point out the "Top ideas - bashers" if you know what I mean. 2 - we have the ideas sorted chronologically so every idea will be on page 1 for a long time and also you can come back any time and see all the new ideas since you last visited the page. If you are new and you have just submitted an idea it will also be shown on page one, ru_flair, because of the chronological order. You can also sort the ideas by rated / not rated.

1. On the other hand, I think with these filters create or increment much more the bashing, therefore you need to take care of it. So in simple words, they create the problem that then you have to solve. If you take them off, you wouldnt have the problem...

Hey guys! We discussed the TOP rank issue internally and came to the conclusion that for a project of this size it could make sense to only have a TOP 100 - and get rid of the TOP 50 /20, proportionally. That can be implemented.

Coooooool!!! Great news Dora and thanks a lot to you guys!!!

wow, let's see how it goes.

Good move with TOP 100.

Dear nuno, Thanks for checking this with us! It could well be a problem, as the logo should not be changed at all in any detail. I am sure you can find a solution for this! :)

:)))

Hey there! Thanks for your question :) If you take a look at the previous editions (links are above in the briefing) you can see that the logo doesn't necessary need to keep the red color - if other colors fit better / are more in harmony with the rest of the design.

More... More ... More great and wonderful submission is coming! This is going to be very exciting! :-)

There are usually two parts - the top rating community designs get money. Then Victorinox chooses a whole bunch of designs (mostly irrespective of community rating) and puts that up for voting on their Facebook page.)

I'm concerning about first part as it is very biased :((( would be better to hide authors, this would eliminate biased voting!!!

That's correct, CrossTheLime. Here you could read about the process: http://www.jovoto.com/blog/2013/10/victorinox-2014-is-coming/

Dear achikuda, this space is for discussing briefing related questions, for general ideas on jovoto you can open up a discussion at our support centre (http://support.jovoto.com).

Here's also a link to our FAQs on rating that you will probably find useful: http://support.jovoto.com/kb/rating

Hi dear eeshu! Yes, we all see updates in our dashboard :)

thanks Dora :)

Jovoto "Ideas" tab should default to random sorting of entries, with the option to sort by New (ascending and descending) for this number of entries. Going through 500+ designs is a chore anyway you organize it though. I wouldn't mind hiding the top entries altogether.

Agree to cutting_edge. It was a very very good decision to show only the top 100 in an open contest with so much entries.

Yes. It has been deployed, we also thought it would made sense :)

The ideas in the TOP 100 rank are shown in a random order, which changes more times a day.

It is not necessarily an advantage, but it does give a minority of entrants better exposure. That is unfortunate because the majority of entries will be forgotten and get almost no views. Everybody contributing their efforts deserves to be seen.

I agree with you

Hey there! The ideas in the TOP 100 rank are shown in a random order, which changes more times a day.

Hi! Hmm, okay I will ask the client if they could say something about this :) You sure don't have to do a mold though ;)

Thanks you! I hope the best for all of us!

Sooo, well the best way to "test" your knife is to print a 1:1 size "prototype" and see how it looks like. Is everything still recognizable? Not too many small details? etc.

Thanks. Unobtrusive, understandable, down to the last detail & as little design as possible. Got it!

great!!!!

Hi there! :) Thanks for your question. You are "allowed" to submit any design that you own the copy rights of and that matches the briefing. (There are a few restrictions: nothing sexist, nothing violent, ... etc.) Just read the briefing carefully! ;) Looking forward to see your ideas!

The order should not be based after the uploading date but are displayed randomly. Anyone who has clicked through 12 pages by to check on updates? Much time... :D

... sorry 16 pages!!! ;)

The random sorting(in the Top 100) doesn't work!

Someone broke the randomizer! :D

I'm gonna check this, no worries :)

hmmm it should work - you should be getting a new random order about every 2 hours..

No sorry...The random order definitely not works.

Checked with chrome, ie and a mobile browser....all have the same problem.

it should be a new order every 2 hours. That doesnt work? You don't get a new order every 2 hours in the TOP 100?

The random order definitely not works....I checked this every 2 hours.

Getting the same order as before also.

The random order does not works

It's unbelievable...random sorting finally works!

Yes, randomizer is un-broken! :)

Thanks for your patience guys! Hurray it works properly :)

you are right to think background art distracts and misleads. ethical contestants would not use such tactics, and a good design shouldn't need background effects.

Let's see how the Project Guide guide us on this one. Should we allowed to use that space for more presentation? Because sometime, it give us a more details and explanation about our idea. It does attract people to come and look at our idea, but rating and ranking... I don't know.

Anyway, I quite agree with stopforit, a good design no needs too much background or presentation. Simple. Less is more. Sometimes, the background which is not suitable does spoil the presentation and mislead us.

I also agree with you that sometimes less is more and very well said that a good design doesn't need much background. Everyone has their own style and own taste. You can do it and you can also leave it. There's no policy for that here. Thanks!

Photoshop, Corel Photo Paint, Paint.net, GIMP... Pick one. :)

Thanks amsquared for answering!

No prob. :)

I would suggest illustrator. If you use Photoshop, then it's a good idea to work to 300dpi (cmyk). Good luck!

They should be using an automated flexible silicone tool to transfer the ink from a flat silkscreen ink pad to the curved knifehandle surface. This would allow them to print edge to edge without distortion or spillover. Anything less is way behind the times.

What you're describing is pad printing (aka tamponprint) and it is in fact used: http://www.victorinox.com/ch/app/content/cb_tamponprint An 80-lines/cm screen would be possible, but looking at the 2012 edition, it's most likely going to be a 48 to 54 line screen.

I will check this with the client for you if you wish to know / and if you say this is relevant information for your design :) Will be back with an answer.

Tampon Print 54 line screen /CMYK 1/10 mm thick Lines/Letters

I hope this is helpful information for you :)

Hey ringli! Actually these knives are allowed on airplanes! Just as I mentioned it here: http://www.jovoto.com/blog/2013/10/victorinox-2014-is-coming/ - it's one of the best things about them if you ask me! Next to the lovely designs and the practicability of course ;)

I guess, you'll have to argue with the flight attendants about that one. ;-) http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2013/06/05/tsa-backs-off-allowing-pocket-knives-on-planes/

Depends on the country. At American airports most common items are not allowed. Even bottled water is considered a deadly weapon. I tried to carry in a new unboxed rice cooker, and was detained in a locked room for several hours as a terrorist suspect.

:) poor "deadly weapon" rice cooker! Well, in Europe it's definitely no problem under a 6 cm blade. I flew a lot with my pocket knife :) But this is not really related to the briefing/ task imo ;)

Understood. ;)

Got it!

What do you mean by "not too abstract"? The more abstract the artwork is, the more chance it will resonate with a wider demographic by tapping the viewer's own imagination. Making the artwork too figurative is what narrows the target customer base.

We have quite some Illustrator experts here :) Can anyone help with this question guys?

I do it like this: put the packshot into Illustrator only as a submission on a Illustrator level. On the other levels you make your design. You can always see the format of the knife. When you are ready, you open the psd file from the packshot in Photoshop. Mark your Illustration and via copy and paste you put it into Photoshop. Make a smart objekt from it so you can always change things in Illustrator without making it new every time. Than you make a path around the knife and make a mask around the smart objekt. Hope that helps you :)

Thank you ! I shall try this. :-)

cool, thanks Ramona! :))

Thank you as well Leonard!!

Haha yes they're all coming in now :) Keep em coming folks!

Ooops my comment was too late lol ;)

:) Yes, this was it!! - wahooo! Thanks guys!! And now it's all about rate, rate, rate! :)

The scores are really high in this contest! Don't forget to rate the ideas that were uploaded in the first days of the contest and are forgotten in the last pages... There is an idea there for a month with only 280 views that was picked to appear on Victorinox's Facebook today. 280 views in one month... I saw ideas with more than 500 views in just one day.

Respect :)))

glad to hear that, Leon! :) Great to have you on the platform!

thanks!

This was kinda fun. Thank you, and good luck to everyone. :)

Thank you! Loved this first experience!!! :)) Good luck everyone!

Cheers Dora. Was great to take part. Good luck to all involved!

wuuhuu nice competition with so much individual styles and inspirations... I´m be curious about the ranking. Well done everybody!

Thank you very much for real Dora, a real good contest with real good work for all around the world.

The atmosphere really nice this time. And a lot of good work too! Now, ... the exciting moment to wait ... the result. Good luck everyone!

YOU ARE THE BEST DORA!!! :)

It was a great pleasure to participate here with you all. Amazing designs and atmosphere. Thank you and good luck!

NEXT YEAR!!! LITERALLY!!! BUT SOON!!! JAN 2014!!! :)

thx Xavier! :) yes, as mentioned above the project will be very likely closed in January 2014 - then the final community ranking will be visible.

soon! really soon! thanks for your patience!

Top 40! Wow, a lot! Very curious of which 40 design they choose. Very exciting!

KUDOS!!! WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! WHAT A HAPPY NEW YEARS START!!! LOVE 2014!!! :)

when the decision of the client knows?

you'll be the first ones to know ;)

Congrats to you too! Yeah, someone had be be16th... Very well done though, that's an outstanding achievement you can be proud of!

hi NorthernSoul, I will let you know as soon as possible, believe me! Hopefully that can be sometime next week but I wouldn't wan't to promise anything too early ;)

Do we dare and ask? :)

And?

Good question, Jorge ;)I think, the monitoring was more effort, because the bashers had "to take care" for more than 100 ideas and results after monitoring were so different...positive ;o)

Hi there oxelot! We decided to get rid of the TOP 20 & 50 here because it's such a huge project. On top of that a lot of you from the community asked for it as well as they felt directly attacked by bashers - and we're happy to listen to your feedback and improve where possible. I put just as much effort into rating monitoring as before, yet it must have been harder to bash top ideas as there were now so many, without an order, just as you said as well.

THAT'S SEEMS THE WAY IT IS... :S

Yapp good luck!

Dora, I can't find Mine??? Wehre is it??

I got back to you in a private message.

Hi there matacho, Indeed there are 34 designs in the voting. The client has chosen their top 40 but in the process they realized that some of them had copyright issues and with some other ones of their favorites they realized that it would not be possible to reach a good (great) printing quality. That's the reason why there's 34 in the end.

Hi matacho, it doesn't matter what ranking you would have. Victorinox chose their favorites, independent of the Jovoto ranking.

Na klar! ;) They are ALL without exception from this project.. http://victorinox2014.jovoto.com/ideas/32007

Loved the Splash as well. All my mates voted for it.. had my pennies saved for it.. too bad ;-(

Congratulations to WINNERS!!! and congrats to all facebook friends! :]]]]]]]]]]]

I think that was the whole idea about facebook voting, it was a popularity contest..that was what the client wanted as a result...

Popularity in the sense the one with the most friends on facebook and the one that makes the most advertising on their page, I prefered when victorinox chose their designs...I don't think i'll be participating next year!

Big congrats to all the winners!

Hi there tocota! To determine the "Bestseller" the knives need to go into production first and be sold ;)) So it won't be tomorrow. But you will be the first ones to know, don't you worry!

jetzt ;)

So far we don't have info about a design that would have made it into the permanent collection.